DIN SYAMSUDIN BIKIN PARTAI, SUARA MUHAMMADIYAH TERBELAH EMPAT? | AFU FT. BENY, KETUM PARTAI PELITA

Use my stage. Okay, let's just mention our leader in this country, brother. Who? Yes, our president today. Why him? Another political party has emerged, declaring itself ready to compete in the 2024 elections, named the Pelita Party, founded by a prominent figure, Mr. Din Samsudin. We know Mr. Din Samsudin. But today, we will talk about the reasons, the goals, and how the party's agendas will be carried out

later. The chairman turns out to be still very young. My junior, actually, Benny Pramula. Ben. Ready, brother. Extraordinary, Ben. Congratulations, Ben. Yes, brother. Uh, what is it called, uh, presenting a political party. This place, uh, I give space to all new parties even, because, uh, we here truly believe in hope, and, uh, the presence of a new party is hope

for us. Uh, who knows, perhaps later our political character, uh, our political journey, and our political future will become even better. It's better if I use language like this. But why is it called the Pelita Party, Ben? Yes, brother. So we chose the name Pelita Party because it seems like you want to return to the past. Yes. Right, sir? Yes, go ahead. So a lamp, or*pelita*,

is needed when the situation is pitch black. Oh, okay, okay, okay. It's a state we consider, uh, unclear as to where this nation is heading. Because of the situation, uh, selective law enforcement, then the chaotic economic situation, the sense of justice that has been injured, so we view that the condition of our nation right now is not doing well. It is experiencing a pitch-black

situation. Hm. So our nation needs a glimmer of light to illuminate this nation so it can stand straight toward what our founding fathers aspired to. Meaning, our friends at Pelita, including Beni, assume that the existing parties are darkening the nation. Yes. Yes. To us. That was you who said it, brother. Right? That was the discussion earlier,

that a*pelita*is needed to illuminate everything. It means it's dark now, right? Yes, dark. Yes. Yes. We view that our nation's situation right now is in a condition that is not doing well. So the term* pelita*, the name*pelita*, is perhaps part of the term we use; if this nation were in a good condition, bright, then the sun or moon might not still be

needed to illuminate this nation. It was declared on February 28th, right ? Yes, that's correct, brother. And until now, how is, uh, there are requirements , right? I. Let's talk about, uh, the mechanism first. 100%at the regional or provincial level , 75%at the regency/city level, 50%at the branch level, and only then

all new political parties that want to be election participants in 2024 will be able to become 2024 election participants. Are you ready, have you fulfilled those requirements? How many percent are we at now, for which regions? The regions are at 100%. Oh, they are, right. At the regency and city level, it's already 75%. Right.

And within the next 5 days, it will be 80%formed. We will hold a National Working Meeting in Jakarta where all regional and local leaders from across Indonesia will head to Jakarta. That's very fast. Very fast since the date of February 28th. Now we're into May, what's today's date ? Very fast. Very fast, brother. Why can it be that fast?

Well, in a party it's a silly question, but let's put it this way. You surely recruit people Yes. Who are definitely also political people. Yes. Right? Where do those people all come from? Are they splinters from other parties? That's what I mean. Yes, after our declaration on February 28th, we moved

quickly because the Pelita Party provides the greatest opportunities for the younger generation to get involved. So, productive energy and productive minds make it easier for the Pelita Party to expand its wings here. Where do the people in your party come from? They have many backgrounds, brother. Coincidentally, I am the former general chairman of one of the largest student organizations in Indonesia. So I have

Muhammadiyah students. Right. So, we have a lot of networks, not just utilizing the networks in the organization I led before, but I have also mingled with friends from the Cipayung Plus community. We contacted them to contribute their best cadres to join the Pelita Party. You, as a political party chairman, are still very young. I know your Secretary General well. I know Tolup well. That's how it is, right? Are the current board

members all around the same age as you? Yes, that's right, brother. So the age requirement in the Pelita Party for the executive board, the DPP, DPW, and DPD, must be under 40 years old. There is that requirement. There is that requirement. Then our seniors who are 40 and above are in the MPW, the MPP, and the MPD. Guiding us young people so we don't get lost in politics in ways we don't want.

The term "getting lost" is a good one. Okay, let's talk about what you will fight for. Of course, you need a base of voters. Something like that, right? A political party without supporters means nothing. Yes. Try to show our data here. This is what I am worried about. I will also use the same language to Mr. Din if I invite him later regarding this matter. We will talk about Mr. Din later.

At least according to our research here , there are four political parties vying for the Muhammadiyah vote, which is certainly not small. First is PAN, which is already established now. Yes. One of the major parties currently in existence. Second, the Ummah Party, founded by a key Muhammadiyah figure and former PAN leader. I have already invited Mr. Amien Rais here. Third, the one led by your senior as well, Mas

Imam. Yes. Yes. The UKM Party. Why is that? Because there are former...yes, seniors, there is Imam there. Who else is there, what is their name? Uh, a former chairman in Muhammadiyah as well. So, this UKM Party consists of people from Muhammadiyah too, or at least from Muhammadiyah's sister organizations. The fourth one is you all. Heh. Is it true that it is the Muhammadiyah

voters that you are fighting over right now? The Pelita Party was indeed founded by one of the former Muhammadiyah figures. Yes, but this party does not solely focus on cultivating the Muhammadiyah vote okay in the region; rather, this party is very inclusive, open to all groups of society from various backgrounds. So, this will not disrupt

the consolidation of the Muhammadiyah organization at the grassroots level. Later, it will be up to the Muhammadiyah cadres whether they want to join and cast their votes for these existing parties. So I think this doesn't need to be debated, Bang. Because each Muhammadiyah figure has their own perspective, principles, and ideals that they must fight for. We must debate it, Ben. Because each party

needs to have a base, so to speak. I. And what we know about the Pelita Party that you are founding is that its key figures are people from Muhammadiyah, such as Mr. Din Syamsuddin. So, like it or not, we have to ask about that. I am actually giving you some support here, B. Right? But we also need to ask if it is the Muhammadiyah market share that you are fighting over, it means it is already crowded, right?

So. But what about those outside that group? That's why I feel it is appropriate to ask this. In the Pelita Party, the figures are actually not just from Muhammadiyah, Bang. Oh, okay. Yes, there are former chairmen of Al-Washliyah, Prof. Yusnar Yusuf, then there are NU figures like Mr. Munis, and there are also some Gontor alumni, like Mr. Jinda

Rohani, and so on. So it is very inclusive, coming from various circles. In the Pelita Party's central board, besides those with a Muhammadiyah organizational background, there are also alumni from PMII and HMI friends, like your cadre mentioned earlier, the Secretary General from Taufik Lubis. So we are not just working on votes from our previous organizational backgrounds , but also from various societal and organizational backgrounds joining in.

Okay, I follow that logic, Ben. Let's play the second file. Earlier you said that we are not just fighting over Muhammadiyah's votes. Now , there are new parties that are not only fighting over all kinds of segments. There is the Gelora Party, right, our friends who broke away from PKS too. I have invited Mr. Anis and Mr. Farihamsa here. Then the Masyumi Reborn Party. Yes.

My friend Ahmad Yani has also been invited here. They are also chasing the same market share as the one you are pursuing, right? Then there is the Indonesia Damai Party, which is a splinter from a previous party based on Christian votes. The Ummat Party, Ridho . I have also invited Mr. Amin here. Then there is the Nusantara Party, this the Prima Party. Then Farhat Abbas's

party, the Pandai Party, and various other parties too. The question is, what is the scenario? What is the plan, what makes Pelita superior, so that we can have hope that you are all capable of lighting a lamp to brighten the darkness as you said in the opening earlier, Ben? Yes, one of the themes we strongly uphold and focus on is that the Pelita Party is anti-oligarchy. So we, the younger generation, really feel that

the opportunity to lead this nation through the executive and legislative branches is not something every child of the nation has an equal chance at, brother. Uh-huh. Well, the Pelita Party wants to give an opportunity to every citizen, every child of the nation. Whether they are a farmer's child, an ojek driver's child, a pedicab driver's child, a palm oil farmer's child, or a fisherman's child,

they have the same opportunity and chance to build this nation. Everyone says that too, K. Okay, brother. The problem is like this , brother. Our nation does not have a meritocracy based on track records. We don't know where they come from. It is just a coincidence that they are the child of an official, the child of a wealthy person, the child of someone who already held power before. They get the opportunity to become leaders,

regents, governors, mayors, but the children of ojek drivers, pedicab drivers, fishermen, and people on the margins. It's as if they are being cast aside. Ben, you are a young man, I know who you are, Ben. You are a progressive young man presenting a new party; your narrative must be different. Yes. Following that logic. Try to mention one example. Who exactly could

represent that oligarchy or one oligarchic group, or who is the group that, well, receives too many facilities from the state in the name of their parents 'greatness and all sorts of things like that? Try to name one person or one group, Ben. Okay, brother. For that, I need to first translate the meaning of oligarchy. Okay. So, in my opinion, simply put, to make the language easier to...Understand by

the public. Oligarchy is a handful of greedy and covetous people. They regulate this country, they set up this country. They are the ones who determine the course of this country. So they are only a handful of people. In reality. Who, Ben? Well, these few people are certainly those who are already in power. And then, surrounding those in power are the financiers who fund the...

Ben. I'm pushing you here, my friend. That's common, everyone says that; where I come from, everyone says that. I want progressiveness from Pelita. Name one person, one group, because honestly, we feel it too. But you want to fight for something, right? You want to use my platform, right? Yeah, just say it now. Okay, Bang. Yes. Use my platform here. Okay. Just name our leader in this country, Bang.

Who? Yeah? Our president today. What about him? Well, he is already the president, right? He has all the facilities to represent the public interest. Give opportunities and chances to lead in the regions, in provinces, districts, and cities to other young generations. Give them a chance, just give it. Yes, but don't create a tyranny of

power that extends downwards, regarding ... Yes, one of them. Gibran and Bobby in Medan. Yes, that is certainly one of the things about equality and justice. Only... Only two, Ben. Only two. The rest are given to political parties. Well, it's not just our president today , Bang. Other political parties are the same. Placing their sons, their crown princes, sons-in-law, or nephews to

lead their parties. Which party? Just look. How can you not know? Me? I want details. You want to fight for something, Ben. Yes. One of them is a party that is blue, for example, Bang. There are parties with blue colors. Red, and so on. So I think, as a political figure, you should use diction and narratives that don't have to...what you have to...

That's why I'm asking, I'm even challenging you to... One example, the party you mentioned earlier was also founded by a Muhammadiyah figure, right? Who? Doesn't it provide the same opportunity and space? Oh, you mean the Ummat Party? Yes. Yeah, Bang, something like that. I ... Give other young people a chance. There are many other figures, you don't have

to involve family tyranny in it. He does give it to his son-in-law, right? Yes. And other parties too, Bang. There are so many, and in the regions, just because their parents are governors, their nephews or in-laws immediately... Pelita Party... wants to be the antithesis of the democratic process taking place like that. I understand, I understand, I

understand because I know you. I know your progressive thinking; now you are not just a leader of a youth organization. You have become a leader of a political party. Your narrative must be clear, your agenda must be clear so that you can then convince us. Who knows, I might be interested in your agenda, and I join the Pelita party, why not? Use this stage. That is why I pressed you earlier

try to explain, who is the oligarchy? How does it work? Where do they start? Who are the perpetrators? What is the goal? Where does the network lead? Use this stage, Ben. Perhaps in a general sense, an oligarchy is a set of power, political, cultural, and economic systems that are controlled by only a handful of people. You know, brother, that in our current economic situation, 1%of people in Indonesia control 50%of our national

assets. The inequality that is happening is so vast. Well, that is an oligarchy. These few people, the oligarchy, support regional head elections, presidential elections, and gubernatorial elections so that they can secure projects and so on in the future if the candidate they support wins the political contest. Now, that is what I mean by oligarchy. What I meant by oligarchy earlier is a handful of greedy, avaricious, and rapacious

people controlling this country. We do not want this country to be controlled by just a handful of people. We want every citizen, every member of the nation to have the same opportunity to build in the fields of economy, culture , education, and so on. We want there to be involvement. Who will Pelita's presidential candidate be later? Well, we will study Pelita's presidential candidate first, brother.

We will formulate it. We will think about it together with all Pelita cadres. We will see whose vision, mission, ideas, attitude, and behavior best align with the vision, mission, and ideology of the Pelita party. Information emerged from inside Pelita at the time of the declaration, yes. Yes. That it is not only people from Muhammadiyah and people from former political parties who will join Pelita,

but many retired TNI officers will also join. Who are the retired TNI officers, Ben? Is it Gatot? No, brother. No. No. So Gatot is definitely not joining you? No. Not yet. Who might it be then? That might be an issue that you read about outside, brother. But as of now, we do not have

any such involvement. So who are the retired officers? There are none yet, brother. None yet, right? Yes. Okay, okay, okay. Even though many people like Mr. Gatot, you know, Mr. Gatot. Yes. Especially since Mr. Gatot and his closeness with Mr. Din, right? Yes. If Mr. Gatot wants to join the Pelita party, we would be very happy

because he is one of this nation's assets who is quite good. He he he. But as of now, not yet. Oh, I see. Yes. We also hope that you, brother, will join us in Pelita. Guide us, these young people. You know that I care about all of you. Yes, because I know you have been such a clear figure all this time. Friend. I remember your role during the, uh,

Century case and so on. When I watched you speak on television and such, it inspired me; I'm being honest, Brother, I'm not just buttering you up. But you are one of the politicians who has become a role model for me to continue this political struggle. Yeah. Surita is also praised like, we'd be doomed if it were like this, you know. At least my spirit, the spirit of friends that, uh, Beni knows, who have done something for this country, can

inspire others in that historical track record, seeing it in what? Yes. In what? In Pelita. I hope it is like that. That is why I provide a platform for all the friends here, Ben, uh, whoever wants to come and speak. This is the place to speak. That is why I invited you, right? I am honestly just surprised that Beni became the top general chairman, you know. That is why I really appreciate Mr. Din, who had

the courage to give trust to you all to , uh, build this. Okay, let's talk about what is it called? About, uh, Pelita again. Try showing other data. Back again to Muhammadiyah, there is an awareness from friends who say it is not easy. Also knowing Muhammadiyah today, uh, especially in these current times, by Mr. what's his name? The General Chairman of, uh, PP Muhammadiyah, it is very, uh, so that the organization isn't dragged

everywhere. Yes. Uh, giving the opportunity to all, uh, Muhammadiyah members to, uh, choose anyone but not allowed to use political parties. An elegant stance, in my opinion. Yes. Now, if that is the story, then we naturally ask how, later on, will the citizens, what's it called, the parties that, quote-unquote, surrender themselves to the big name of

Muhammadiyah. You already answered that earlier. I am taking a different angle from my question. Where does the funding come from, Ben? Yes, Brother. That is the, uh, it is not cheap, you know. Yes, it is not cheap. Very not cheap. That is what differentiates the Pelita Party from other parties or existing parties. We are building this Pelita Party with a spirit of mutual

cooperation. You know Prof. Din Syamsuddin doesn't have anything, Brother. In terms of what? Economy and so on. He is a national figure, and we know what he possesses. As for myself, perhaps you know I am a young man who has yet to be settled with himself. Yes. Yeah. I know you. But then we have spirit, we have idealism, we have dreams, we have ideas and concepts. That is what

we have, and we convince everyone who joins the Pelita Party that this party is not built with transactional motives at the start. Maybe if I joined another party, a party built by a wealthy person, maybe an official, I would ask, "Will I be funded to run for office?" Was I financed to build the infrastructure from the regional level down to the regency, city, and sub-district? But when the ones inviting me to build this nation

together are Prof. Din Syamsuddin, Prof. Yusnar Yusuf, and Prof. Jinda Rohani. I didn't ask about that. Just looking at these figures, I already believe that these people are truly sincere in wanting to build the nation and the homeland. Respecting great figures like Mr. Din is one thing. Yes. But when it is then brought to the format of, uh, whether to follow their political choices, that is a different

matter, Ben. You all must prepare yourselves for that. Yes, that's many people like Mr. Din, many people respect Mr. Din for what he has done, as well as the other figures you mentioned earlier. But as I said, that is different. What will you do if it turns out you are not capable enough to convince, uh, the owners to join and then you don't pass? Will you form a coalition with other Muhammadiyah-based

parties? That is the fun part about the Pelita Party, Bang. Heh. So, this party provides the greatest opportunity and space for the growth and development of ideas from the youth . So, uh, the function of, uh, the Professors and those at the level of the party's consultative assembly will not intervene too much. So, let the youth create here, but they protect us

so we don't get trapped in the current of pragmatic politics and so on. Regarding your question earlier, building a party's infrastructure is very expensive. It requires a huge amount of funding. We believe in this, Bang. Money from backers is indeed plentiful. Money from the oligarchy is indeed plentiful. Money from tycoons, let's say, is indeed plentiful, but God's wealth, the wealth of the Almighty, is

much more than what they have. Even if all the leaves on this earth were made into paper and all the water were made into ink to write down how vast God's wealth is, it would never be enough. So we are truly confident that by relying on spirit, ideas, aspirations, and idealism. Many people will sympathize and empathize to help the Pelita Party's struggle. It is hard for me to argue against what you are saying, Ben. But the problem is

like this, let's be realistic. Realistic. The public doesn't need God's money. That is from our experience, you know. Yes. They want cash and carry. I you know that. Yes. How about that, right? Yes. The proof if, if by the language

that was so Islamic as you said earlier , all parties would have passed, but in reality, they haven't. Yes. You will see the proof on the 15th , Bang, in 5 days we are going to have our National Working Meeting, Bang. You will see they will come from all over Indonesia. Okay. Where is the venue? In Ancol, Bang. In Ancol, right?

Yes. We are having our National Working Meeting there. Well, the proof is that their structures were formed without us financing them, without any funding support from the center. that's possible because they see a figure they trust, they are willing to work together, deliberate, and sacrifice what they have, including material assets to build the Pelita Party infrastructure. That's awesome, Ben.

Yes, God willing, brother. I hope, uh, what is it called you all succeed because I know all the friends there. Understood, B. But the point is, why did I give you a platform? Because as I said, I like hope. Yes, I like the future, friends. This place really, what can I say, provides space for various, uh, different possibilities, which might be better

for us in the future. I pray that the Pelita Party can contribute to the country. Amen. Not just stopping at the narrative. Yes. Especially if your behavior ends up being just like the others when in power. Let time be the one to answer. At least there is a digital record here through this Akbar Faizal Uncensored. I pray for all of you.

Thanks, Ben. Greetings to all your friends. Lastly, brother, I am still very much a novice in the world of politics. I ask for your guidance, direction, and advice so we can engage in politics as well as you have. Since you have decided to form a political party, yes. God willing. Greetings to the friends, yes. Understood, brother. Stay healthy, my brother.

Yes. Right. Uh, that is the narrative of a young, progressive person. It just so happens that I know them all, and I hope that everything they mentioned earlier can be translated later when public trust comes, we will see. But at the very least, in this place, we continue to nurture and guard good intentions for this republic, one of which is through this method. Thank you for watching this program. Thanks a lot. Success.